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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 29, 2010 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

...nuthin?

[put me down as one that was there, but transitioned to "clueless" later in life...I think I am on record somewhere around here as having said I liked 75 and other yrs ahead of 77, back then, but overall have to agree with those that said it was "sweet" in the sense of soothing, lower intensity, background party music rather the sort that conveys an overwhelming sonic impact...TRUST me, I KNOW that puts me in the minority, BUT I guess I am agreeing that separate from the latter era bias, there is something you all detect about 77 in particular. I think Grendel has touched on this, and explains, in part, his love of fall, 78? Dunno]

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Poster: ducats Date: Oct 29, 2010 3:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

that's why I like 81 - there's still a HINT of everything positive that came before it - and you would've had to been Nostradamus to even catch a whiff of the stench that was to come

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 29, 2010 3:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

Very articulately put. However, I think that statement applies more accurately to 1977...

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Poster: ducats Date: Oct 29, 2010 4:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

would'nt you agree that 81 had more of the improv (from the earlier years) than 77 - and more of the "canned" stuff (we grew to love) from 77, that the earlier years obviously didn't have?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 29, 2010 6:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

I feel that '81 was the Dead's best overall year in the '80s; they certainly opened up the jams compared to 1980. (Though I'd nod to fall '83 as having my favorite individual '80s shows.)

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Poster: billydlions Date: Oct 29, 2010 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

I didn't think you ventured in to the 80's LIA. 1981 has always been my favorite year of the Brent era and at one time was underrated. The lack of soundboards kept people from listening but now that more boards are available (or perhaps people realized the audience recording were very good) 1981 now gets its proper attention. I believe the high level of playing started in Aug 1980 and lasted through all of 1981. 1982 had its moments, especially the summer tour and as you mentioned fall of 1983 was well played with Jerry taking long solos on many songs. I see many of the early era guys have softened their tone on these shows. Next thing you know William Tell will be chiming in....

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 29, 2010 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

I do listen to lots of '80s shows actually, I just don't talk about them. The excitement isn't there for me. They're more for 'background' than something I'll intensively get into.
Anyway, 1980 does have some gems; mainly very tight & focused though - '81 is when they started to let in some sprawl & get more freewheeling again like they were in '79.
'82 seemed like a very consistent year to me, many very smooth shows but not so many knockouts.
Don't know why there was that little Dead renaissance in Sep/Oct '83, other than my own personal preference for the longer jams.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 29, 2010 6:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

I agree, to some extent. 1981 was an uptick in quality from 1980, exclusive of the acoustic music. There are a few excellent performances in 1981, and some quasi improvisation. Still, there are very few performances after 10/27/79 that are on that level. And very little after 1977 as fine...

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Poster: Daddy D Date: Oct 29, 2010 3:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What Is So Spectacular About '77?

Holy @#$% . . . I just thought it was a given that all dyed-in-the-wool deadheads loved '77. I mean, I realized that it wasn't everyone's favorite year, but to say that you "just don't get it" . . . mystifies me.

I got it, get it, & continue to get off on it!

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